They come every day, the bewildered, the indignant, and the ones who hope that posters in Amazon’s TRF are stupid. The bewildered and the indignant are looking for help, they have been following the “rules” and have no idea why Amazon has deleted their reviews and removed their reviewing privileges. The ones that hope the Amazon posters are stupid know precisely what they have done and when confronted with the proof they rant, rave, and revile, and keep repeating over and over they were “honest” and “unbiased”.
Coupon clubs like AMZ Review Trader and Tomoson have sprung up a they supply nd inundated the Amazon review system with thousands of reviews. Despite what they claim these sites do indeed know exactly why their reviewers are getting purged.
What is a coupon club? Very simply, they supply a service. A seller buys a set deal for a number of products and supplies a large number of coupon codes for reviewers. People wishing to obtain discounted or free products sign up with the club and approved for certain products and given a coupon code. We aren’t talking 25-50 codes per product here, we are talking hundreds.
What does this do? It is a form of manipulation, the more “purchases”, the more reviews, the more times a product is added to a Wish List, the more visual recognition that product gets. Until well-known brands are listed under the off brands.
This might not be a problem if you are clued in to what is going on but if not then a buyer could be lulled into thinking that Madame Fou-Fou’s Face Cream is as good as or better than Estee lauder or Clinique or Guerlain. In reality Madame Fou-Fou’s Face Cream may not even contain what is listed on the label. How do you know for sure? Those 300 glowing 5 star reviews? They received the product, let’s say 3 days ago, along with another face cream, an anti-wrinkle serum, and 2 bottles of supplements from God knows where. They slap a little on their faces, down a few capsules, and if they don’t fall over dead or in a coma or have their skin start to peel off their faces then they give it a good review and order someone else’s creams and supplements.
It’s big business for someone, just not good business. The reviewers believe (the bewildered and indignant ones) that they are helping poor, struggling sellers claw their way up the profit ladder at Amazon so they can feed their families and help their communities. Or something like that.
They never stop to ask how those struggling sellers can afford to give away hundreds of their product. And they fail to understand what the Amazon review is for and who the Amazon reviewer is.
Again simply, Amazon reviews are written by and for Amazon customers. Let me repeat that: Amazon reviews are written by and for Amazon customers. And now Amazon is cleaning house. And the reviewers come to the forums looking for answers and help.
So here is help. One of the regular TRF posters, Maine Colonial, created this post. If you are a coupon club reviewer, are thinking about becoming one, know one, were one, or are a customer disgusted by the influx of “honest and unbiased” reviews, then read this:
We are not Amazon employees on this forum, but we’ve read a lot here, on Facebook, Reddit and other places; enough to give us some good ideas about what’s behind the purges. And what we see is that by far the #1 common denominator of the purged reviewers has been membership in AMZ Review Traders or another “coupon club” on Facebook or its own website that gives out discounted products in exchange for reviews posted on Amazon. These outfits try to make you believe they are associated with Amazon, which is not at all true. They act as if their rules are the same as Amazon’s but the fact is that they are often contrary to Amazon’s and if you follow them, you’re likely to lose your reviews and reviewing ability.
If you have never done any discount coupon reviewing, then jump way down in this post for some other activities that seem to lead to purging.
First, I have to warn you that ALL of the purged couponers say “I obeyed all the rules and my reviews are 100% honest and unbiased.” You’re kidding yourself, because the way the coupon system works is biased in favor of sellers, and anyone who follows the coupon club rules and requests is almost bound to have violated Amazon’s policies. You may not have realized it, but just being in the coupon club system is a problem, regardless of the content of your reviews and how accurate you believe your ratings are.
Every time you did any of these things, you helped a vendor violate Amazon’s term for sellers:
▶︎ Reviewed a product from a vendor who gave out huge numbers of discount codes (even if those huge numbers of codes were given out after yours);
▶︎ Went to the vendor’s product listing on Amazon by using a link provided by the vendor that included search terms in it, not just the products ASIN identification on Amazon (these links are called super URLs);
▶︎ Added products to your Amazon wish list at the vendor’s request;
▶︎ At the vendor’s request, you upvoted positive reviews on products and/or downvoted negative reviews;
▶︎ Agreed to the vendor’s request to contact it before posting a negative review;
▶︎ Reviewed to help the seller;
▶︎ Got an Amazon Verified Purchase on a product even though you got the product at a deep discount. (Amazon is removing those AVPs now, but that’s a recent development.)
All of these things manipulate Amazon’s product ranking algorithms, which falsely elevates products in the results when a shopper is looking for something on Amazon. Does it make sense that no-name products would dominate search results, so that a shopper would have to wade through pages of them before finding established brands like OXO, Zyliss, Anker, Eucerin and other recognizable names? Of course not, but it happened because of these manipulative practices, and shoppers spending their own money complained loudly. Now Amazon is cracking down and wiping out reviews and reviewers who are part of the manipulative system.
I could stop here and say that it’s not your fault you were purged; you were just an unwitting victim of vendor wrongdoing. But that’s not entirely true.
➠ When a vendor told you that you needed to post your review right away or named a time limit of just a few days, didn’t it occur to you that it didn’t give you enough time to use the product the way a real purchaser would?
➠ When the vendor asked you not to post a negative review, didn’t you suspect that they really just went on selling the product rather than fixing the problems?
➠ When the vendors graded you on your reviews, giving higher-graded reviewers better and more products, didn’t you notice that the way to get good vendor grades was to quickly post high-rated reviews and lots of them? Did you think that was really helping shoppers who are spending their own hard-earned money on Amazon?
➠ Did you post lots of reviews over a short period of time? Do you think it’s truly helpful to shoppers for you write large volumes of short, unspecific reviews that you didn’t spend a lot of time, thought and effort on?
➠ Did your star ratings match up with the text of your reviews? We’ve seen so many cases where a coupon reviewer will report that a product didn’t work or had some real problems, and yet the reviewer gives the product three, four or even five stars. That’s a betrayal of the shoppers who are trying to use reviews to make good shopping choices.
➠ When you posted reviews for multiple beauty aids and/or supplements, didn’t you realize it was dishonest to claim you used them all and could tell which one actually had the effect you claimed in your review?
➠ When you picked these beauty aids and supplements, didn’t you wonder how the vendor could afford to send out so many at such big discounts when the name brands cost a lot more money? Did you verify that they contained the ingredients they claimed? Did it cross you mind that maybe they didn’t and could actually be harmful?
➠ Were you an Amazon reviewer before you started reviewing for discount-coupon products? If not, did you familiarize yourself with the way regular Amazon reviewers write reviews? Did you read Amazon’s guidelines for reviews? (That’s *Amazon’s* guidelines, not what the coupon club and vendors *told* you the rules/guidelines are.) If you had done that, you would have noticed that reviews that Amazon shoppers vote as helpful are full of information that a shopper would want to know about the product, and they tend *not* to be full of misspelled words and incorrect punctuation and capitalization.
➠ When vendors wanted you to have a Prime membership so that they could use that to get free shipping to send their products to you, did you think that was something Amazon would be OK with? Think about it. Shipping is expensive and you were getting that vendor a whole lot of free shipping–for stuff that Amazon wasn’t exactly cleaning up on in a big way.
What if you aren’t a coupon reviewer but you’ve been purged? Well, we don’t know much about that situation, but there are some possibilities.
Did you do a lot of review “washing,” meaning deleting a review and reposting it? Amazon used to tell people washing was just fine, but they changed their position sometime in 2015. Washing strips away negative votes, so that’s now considered to be review manipulation. It’s still not clear how washing could lead to a purge, though. Some people purged admit they washed, at least sometimes. But others point to a number of very highly ranked reviewers who still do the washing regularly.
Another practice that may lead to a purge is using multiple reviewing accounts. Amazon has a problem if someone has more than one reviewing account and uses them to review the same product(s). This is considered to be review manipulation. Using multiple accounts to vote on reviews is also considered to be review manipulation.
Being a paid reviewer (a Fiverr reviewer, for example) is a sure-fire way to be purged.
Amazon uses various analytics to identify cases in which a reviewer has a relationship with the product reviewed. For example, friends-and-family reviews, quid pro quo reviews (popular among author groups). These violations of Amazon’s reviewing rules are more likely to lead to the offending reviews being removed, not to a purge of the reviewer’s entire portfolio and loss of reviewing privileges.
A murky area is the case of reviewers who post reviews both on Amazon and on their own blogs, with links from the blog to Amazon that result in the blogger/reviewer receiving pay if the person clicking on the link then buys the item on Amazon. It’s not at all clear at this time, but it appears that this scenario can lead to a purge. Until more is known, a blogger who has monetized his/her blog might be better off not reviewing the same product on both the blog and Amazon.
Amazon now invites people to notify them if they think anyone is engaged in review manipulation. So there may be cases where a purge came about because of Amazon studying someone’s review portfolio after that person has been reported.
If you want to appeal your purging, you can write to firstname.lastname@example.org. From what we’ve seen, you get one opportunity to make your case, but your chances of a reprieve are almost nonexistent. If you do decide to write, claiming you didn’t do anything wrong isn’t likely to help you. It’s better to try to figure out what you might have done that Amazon could have had a problem with, acknowledge that problem and affirm that you understand why that’s an issue and you won’t do it anymore.
Thanks for spreading the word! The rate of Amazon purges seems to be going up all the time, but there are still thousands of coupon reviewers out there who don’t get the whole picture and why what they’re doing is bad for Amazon’s business and other shoppers. Some of them are willfully ignorant, some don’t care as long as the junk keeps flowing their way, but some have been fooled into thinking that the clubs are affiliated with Amazon and that whatever the club tells them is fine with Amazon. It would be nice if that third group could be clued in before they’re purged. Those first two groups, though? Purging is all too well deserved.
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You angry old ladies seriously have nothing in your lives to fulfill yourselves other than stalking products no one wants and running your mouths because you’re hiding behind a computer. You all spend every waking moment bickering and looking for people to bash, all the while thinking others are suppose to listen to you. You are no better than the people you complain about but they’re not raising their blood pressure over stupid things. They’re happy and you guys are miserable. Oh the irony.
Does your husband not touch you anymore? This level of obsession and anger is not healthy and is a sign of mental health problems. We get it, higg school was hell for you. You’re way past that. Get on a treadmill and make yourself better, and not just a screen name spatting nonsense to make yourself feel better.
Do you tell your friends, if you have any that aren’t on a computer, ans famiy members that you sit on your computer making fun of people all day? Do you turn shsdes of red explaining how muxj rime you put in saving the US from reviews of junk store items? What will your obituary say when all that cake finally puts 1 too many pounds on you and your heart gives out?
Silly little troll, I haven’t got a heart or so so many of you keep telling me. Excuse me, there is cake calling my name.
I belong to several clubs, and anything i Review in insufficient time, i state that i will give more thorough results after i have had sufficient testing of product. Perhaps that explains why i am suspended from one clyb for not reviewing products that are reviewed on amazon. I can not find a response from amzreviewT..
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I was once a top 1000 reviewer (but not that high for many years) and was purged. I never used coupons, have no blog, never took any free or discounted products, reviewed only Vine products and products I paid full price for, do not have multiple accounts, do not “review wash,” do not link reviews to anywhere else or post review anywhere else, do not belong to ANY clubs or take products from any clubs, am not related to or linked in any way to anyone selling any products, have worked with no vendors in any way, am not a paid reviewer ever, have no Prime membership, no masses of reviews in a short period of time, no star/review not matching, or anything else mentioned here. As I mentioned, I only review products I received from Vine and that I paid full price for. In fact, I have not even been keeping up with reviews for products I bought at Amazon. I have never profited from reviewing in any way (other than being put in the Amazon Vine program). I didn’t even know about purging until I was purged. I tried to write a review for a Vine product, but it wouldn’t work, so I emailed Amazon and told them something was wrong. I then received an email from those whacky review people that said basically, “You are banned, too bad, and we won’t tell you why.” Amazon is either making mistakes or banning people for reasons other than they state. I find it comical that Amazon tells people they “can’t” tell them why they were banned. Yes, they can. Perhaps it is because some are banned for reasons other than breaking Amazon’s rules.
Yes, Amazon has made a few mistaken purges and even fewer of the purged have managed to get their reviewing privileges returned by taking their case to review. Have you tried that? I don’t have the link handy but you could go ask Maine Colonial or one of the other regulars on the boards.
Yep I got banned beginning of the year. As far as I could see nothing wrong and was a buyer for about six years before becoming a reviewer on Amazon. Star ratings from 1-5 on reviews and reporting sellers trying to buy my review but still got purged. Yep I probably broke some term unknowingly but I do suspect it was more down to my friends list on Facebook as Facebook has been banning spamming messages so a seller usually asks you to friend add them to limit that. I don’t know that person or company but I’ve got myself linked as simply as that and been blocked.
I have been an amazon customer since the beginning. I began reviewing in 1999. I shopped on amazon, I purchased, it was always like that and remains that way.
I was purged after being falsely and ridiculously accused of “having an improper relationship with the author” of a book I had bought, read, and tried to review. I even called amazon, telling them it was a slur on me as an author.
What I experienced was a dirty, secret move against me by amazon, which they kept lying about, and which defies explanation. I was in the top 1,500 for years. My help rate was over 90% (I can’t even recall the exact number now).
But I do notice amazon shills, such as the much-touted “Maine Colonial” who hasn’t the balls to go by the real name. These shills are always 100% pro-amazon. They mock, troll and harangue anyone who utters a single negative comment about amazon.
Pretty picture indeed!
You have a problem and it’s not that you got “falsely accused”. It’s that you got caught. Pray more, Rev, and stop listening to Satan whispering in your ear.